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Chapter 661: What can you do if God doesn’t help you?

Chen Kuan sent a wooden box over. After opening the wooden box, there were many memorials stacked inside, which were the result of discussions on Xie Qian's case in various yamen in Beijing.

Chen Kuan personally took it out and placed them in front of the emperor.

Liu Jian and Li Dongyang glanced forward first, and they probably knew that the emperor should have read it. Obviously, the emperor had a rough understanding of the results.

“Ministry of Punishment.” Zhu Youtang said.

Wang Shi, the Secretary of the Ministry of Justice, stood up and said, "I am here."

"No need to be polite." Zhu Youtang originally wanted to signal Wang Shi to sit down and say, but maybe he felt that since it was The ministers had to show some manners when they were doing something. After all, he was not sitting down with Zhang Zhou to discuss the matter, so he didn't force it. "Tell me, what is the opinion of the Ministry of Punishment on this."

Wang Shi said, "The Ministry of Punishment discussed that when the troops were deployed in the northwest, the Ministry of Cabinet took the initiative to collect food and pay for the Northwest, and gave many instructions to the Ministry of Households, etc., and the Ministry of Cabinet contributed to this. Xie Qian was a minister of the Ministry of Cabinet, and this credit should be recorded. Take this as our priority.”

“Yes.” Zhu Youtang nodded, looking calm, “When we were discussing the use of troops in the northwest, the cabinet did try to increase food and salary for the northwest. Wait, his opinion is the same as mine, but this is not considered meritorious service, it is just a matter where ministers should make suggestions."

Wang Shi said again, "Xie Qian supported the use of troops in the northwest. There were private discussions with the officials in the court and the impeachment of the generals who used the troops in the northwest. Although there was a suspicion of making false comments about military affairs during the war, it was not an exaggeration to accuse the officials of discussing court affairs or military affairs. I'm afraid that everyone in the court will be silent. From what I can see, even if Xie Qian did something improper in this matter, he should be treated leniently and not punished."

"Really? "This time Zhu Youtang's attitude changed and he seemed unhappy.

When Wang Shi saw this posture, he hurriedly said, "I just expressed some superficial opinions. As for what was said in the case, Xie Qian prevented the Ministry of Revenue from mobilizing money and grain to the northwest, and also hindered the deployment of troops, etc. It should be There is no evidence. If he really obstructed the imperial court's use of troops, he should be severely punished."

Zhu Youtang said, "Yes, he did not openly obstruct the transfer of money and food to the northwest, but he was in the British public. After the troops were dispatched, even basic food and grass could not be guaranteed, and he had to go to one place to raise funds. Even when the Ministry of Household Affairs wanted to transfer money and food, the cabinet was reluctant to approve it."

Liu Jian stood up hurriedly and said, "Your Majesty. "The old minister believes that I was also at fault in this matter. Because it involved the dispatch of money and grain after the autumn grain was put into the warehouse, I may have been delayed in this matter, but there was no delay."

Zhu You. Zang asked, "Does the cabinet support the mobilization of troops, money and food to the northwest?"

"Yes." Liu Jian replied.

Zhu Youtang nodded and said, "Then why are the soldiers and horses going to the northwest unable to get money and food for a long time?"

"This situation is complicated. Troops are mobilized from the capital, and men and horses are needed. Mobilizing money and food from various parts of the northwest cannot be decided by the people in the capital, and much depends on the situation in the northwest. "Liu Jian was probably reminding the emperor.

We only give reference opinions on this kind of matter in Beijing. Whether the northwest can mobilize troops to Zhang Mao and provide supporting supplies with grain, grass and baggage is a matter for the northwest. In this way, our cabinet is not cooperative and even requires Punishing Xie Qian for his crime is a bit too much.

Zhu Youtang said coldly, "Then after Uncle Xinjian dispatched troops and horses to the British Duke and allocated food and grass, why did someone join forces with officials to participate in the impeachment?"

Liu Jian didn't answer this time.

Wang Shi was waiting for Liu Jian to answer, but seeing Liu Jian standing with him silently, he knew that Liu Jian had thrown a difficult problem to him.

Wang Shi gritted his teeth and said, "Your Majesty, this may be because Uncle Xin Xin mobilized troops and horses in this way, which is not in compliance with the court's laws. In terms of the deployment of troops by generals on expeditions, the British princes should be mobilized and coordinated by themselves after arriving at the local area. It should not be left to the northwest general to mobilize troops on his own. This is to prevent someone from deploying troops without authorization."

Zhu Youtang said, "You mean, you agree to participate in this matter."

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"I have no such intention." Wang Shi was so frightened that he quickly denied it.

He couldn't help but glance sideways at Liu Jian, who was also standing.

This is the difficulty of being a courtier. While you have to cater to the civil servants, you must not cater to them too much, lest the emperor thinks that you are of the same mind as the traditional civil servants. For his mentality of trying to survive in the cracks, he I was also speechless.

Zhu Youtang said coldly, "If I remember correctly, it was not only Uncle Xinjian who participated in the impeachment, but also Commander-in-Chief Ma Yi and others. If the imperial court had adopted this opinion at that time, the result would have been different." How?"

Wang Shi stopped answering at all.

This is where it gets difficult.

After participating in the impeachment of Ma Yi, if Ma Yi was defeated, then everyone in the court would feel that Xie Qian was as if Kong Ming was still alive, and he had long expected that this move would bring negative consequences.

But it was Ma Yi who won, and in the end he was very uncooperative with Xie Qian, so Xie Qian was no longer an afterthought, but a criminal.

If God doesn’t help you, what can you do? < /p>

It means that we should continue to delay, make bold assumptions and careful arguments, and try the case for another year and a half. Maybe everyone will forget about it, and then the old suspicion will be settled

< p>At this moment, Liu Jian and Li Dongyang instinctively felt that this matter should not be delayed any longer.

Lu Wan came out and said, "Your Majesty, the people who Xie Qian are guilty of making irresponsible remarks about the military and political affairs, and fighting against different parties with the same party. If the frontline soldiers have no merit in the battle, they will be dismissed from their posts and even be sentenced to death. Although there are some pardons, But if the civil servants who speak behind the scenes can have no scruples, then the soldiers on the front line will be hesitant about sending troops, and they should strictly follow the law to set an example."

Li Dongyang couldn't help but glare at Lu Wan.

He could see that Lu Wan seemed to want to put Xie Qian to death in this matter.

But it’s a bit of a twist. After all, LuI have already said that after the death of frontline soldiers, they can still be pardoned. In the past few decades of the Ming Dynasty, the generals who led troops on expeditions were defeated or failed to achieve results, or they were slack. Many of those who were sentenced to death were basically sentenced to death. Pardon to exile.

The latest one is Zhu Hui, the Duke of Baoguo.

Li Dongyang also understood that regarding the dispute between the Shangting Office and the cabinet over the emperor's think tank, it was reasonable for the Shangting Office to take a clear stance against the cabinet.

The emperor probably did not want the Shangting Office and the cabinet to reach a reconciliation on the Xie Qian matter.

The emperor wanted to check and balance the thoughts of the courtiers, and the wise courtiers could understand it, and even secretly promoted this check and balance, so that the emperor would take it lightly.

Liu Jiandao, "Your Majesty, this case has been delayed for two months. It is really not appropriate to delay it any longer."

Zhu Youtang looked at Chen Kuandang who was aside and said, "This is a public house in Beijing. Everyone is right." This matter has been discussed and submitted here, right?"

"Yes," Chen Kuan replied.

Zhu Youtang said, "I did say before that if most of the ministers in the court expressed their gratitude to Mr. Ge, I would forget about it and let him return to his hometown to take care of himself. This would be regarded as a complete solution." The friendship between the king and his ministers has been revealed."

Chen Kuan was startled, then thought of something, and reminded him, "Your Majesty, Zhang Shangshu of the Ministry of War is out of the capital, so he is not in the palace." Participated in the discussion on this matter, and Zhang Shangshu said that he wanted to avoid suspicion on this matter, so" Zhu Youtang said angrily, "I am asking the Ministry of War, not Bingkuan. I want Bingkuan to express his opinion on this."

Chen Kuan breathed a sigh of relief and replied, "The Ministry of War has also discussed it. The result is that although there is a fault, it is not a crime, and it should be punished with a small punishment and a big warning. , Just give him a penalty."

"The penalty means that he should be kept in court." Zhu Youtang frowned.

Originally, Zhang Zhou was in the Ministry of War, and it was logical that the Ministry of War was the vanguard in dealing with Xie Qian. However, it seemed that the Ministry of War was very polite about this matter.

Chen Kuandao "That's indeed what he said."

Hearing this, Liu Jian and Li Dongyang were at least relieved, because judging from the various feedback they received, no matter in Beijing, All civil servants showed tolerance to Xie Qian. Even if some people said that Xie Qian was inappropriate, they did not condemn Xie Qian to death like Shang Ting Chu did.

If according to the rules set by the previous emperor, as long as no one agrees with the audience, then this matter will be considered exposed.

Xie Qian can still resign and return home, or even better, he can stay in the court for a period of time, let him take the initiative to resign, and even complete the handover.

And the inheritance within the civil service can also be completed, especially the dispute between the cabinet and the superiors, which will end with the victory of the cabinet. Even if it is a tragic victory, it is enough for traditional civil servants, and sacrifice Xie Qian's official career was nothing to them.

Zhu Youtang asked, "Isn't there any public house that has reached a different outcome than this?"

Chen Kuandao said, "Indeed, there is no such thing.". ”

Zhu Youtang said, “But why do I feel that someone’s performance seems to be missing? Come and have a look.” ”

Chen Kuan was startled.

The emperor was very dissatisfied.

Everyone in the court stood on the side of Bao Xie Qian, except the emperor. The Listening Department was determined to kill Xie Qian, which disappointed the emperor. The so-called checks and balances were just a one-man show performed by the Listening Department

Chen Kuan quickly walked over and read each memorial in detail. After that, he even classified them into categories, and carefully looked at all the central offices in the capital, including their opinions. Then he was very sure and said to the emperor, "Your Majesty, I think this is gone." "

"Who said that?" Zhu Youtang said, "Isn't there still a Yanwu Hall?"

"Ah"

Don't say it's Chen Kuan. Even the few remaining ministers present were shocked.

How come there is something about Yanwu Hall?

Like Tingchu, Yanwu Hall is also a newly established yamen. Logically speaking, there are military officers there, which is a bit like the Imperial Academy, except that one trains civil servants and the other trains generals.

Zhu Youtang said, "Even Beiyong's sacrificial wine has been criticized. Is it possible that Yanwu Hall is not the same." Are you not qualified? Everyone in the Yanwu Hall is the pillar of the country. If they are involved in this matter, what’s the problem? Who will supervise the Yanwu Hall now?” It seems to be what civil servants or military officials should do.

But after winter, Yanwu Hall is still on vacation, because most of the generals in Yanwu Hall have been sent to various places in the northwest. Some will follow Zhang Mao, and some will be transferred to Liaodong. After all, it is Zhang Zhou's plan to attack the Jurchens.

Even if they go to Yanwu Hall to arrest people, they won't be able to catch anyone.

"Is there no one here?" Zhu Youtang said.

"I think it's Zhang Shangshu." After thinking about it, Chen Kuan thought that the Minister of War was the direct superior of Yanwu Hall.

Lu Wan corrected him, "When your Majesty established the Yanwu Hall, the Yanwu Hall was not affiliated with any department, and he made it clear that he could directly report to His Majesty. I have been in the Yanwu Hall for a long time, but now I am no longer here. , but they knew that the person who now supervises the Martial Arts Hall is Liu Jin and Eunuch Liu. "

"Who?" Zhu Youtang frowned, as if he himself had not thought of it.

"Your Majesty, it is Liu Jin, Eunuch Liu, who is the imperial horse prison officer. "Lu Wandao.

Zhu Youtang asked, "Is that Liu Jin from the East Palace?"

Chen Kuan said with an embarrassed look, "Your Majesty, that's right." "

"Where are the others?" Zhu Youtang asked.

Chen Kuan thought for a while, but he couldn't answer this question.

Lu Wandi He replied, "Eunuch Liu was previously transferred to the northwest to coordinate with the British Duke in dispatching troops and other matters. He was stranded at Piantou Pass and other places. After the Battle of Guanshan, he returned to Beijing and is now waiting for the imperial court to dispatch him. "

Zhu Youtang nodded and said, "Yes, when I transferred him to the northwest, I did not say that I would take away his position as the admiral of the Yanwu Hall. Now he is indeed in charge of the Yanwu Hall. Then let him find someoneLet's discuss whether this matter should be discussed by the DPRK. "

When Li Dongyang heard this, he really couldn't stand it. He came out and argued, "Your Majesty, it is really against the rules to use military men to discuss politics.

Lu Wandao, "Mr. Li Ge, I don't understand what kind of government this is. Your Majesty had a purpose and did not allow the Governor's Office to participate in this matter, but Yanwu Hall is not affiliated with the Governor's Office." , and has nothing to do with the Governor's Mansion directly. Don't the public houses in Beijing include Yanwutang?"

"You" Li Dongyang almost wanted to hit someone.

He also knew, Lu Wan is from Yanwu Hall, and he has a great say in this matter.

We already have a chance of winning, but now we have to let Yanwu Hall come out to negotiate Xie Qian's decision. It is very likely that the person responsible for the crime will be on the side of the Shangting Department.

Zhu Youtang said, "I also want to take more opinions. Besides, are all the people in the Yanwu Hall people from the military?"

Chen Kuandao said, "Your Majesty, this is not the case. There are both military ministers and civil servants in the Yanwu Hall. Your Majesty, you have forgotten that many people in the court have served in it, such as Zhang Shangshu of the Ministry of War." , as well as Tang Shilang, Lu Shilang, Xin Xinbo and Wang Shilang, who is the trilateral general system, etc."

"That's right. "Zhu Youtang said, "What's the point of not letting Yanwu Hall participate in the discussion? Let's send someone there. Within two hours, Yanwu Hall must discuss and come up with the result. There is no need to ask anyone, and there is no need to listen to anyone's suggestions. I just let them discuss it on their own and submit the results like this. I won't go anywhere, just wait here. ”

It just needs to be freshly baked.

I don’t listen to anyone but Liu Jin. Of course, Liu Jin didn’t make the decision alone. In name, he wanted to follow the Jingyan Martial Arts Hall.

Li Dongyang even realized that there is still a bad person in Yanwutang in Beijing

Who should Liu Jin consult with?

Just look at him. One person sings a one-man show

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