Chapter 696: Then I’ll let you take this seat!

Chapter 696: Then I’ll let you sit in this position

Why do you have to struggle with the raw materials

In fact, this question is not only shared by Xiao Ya, but also by Chen Yue and Su Caiwei. .

In their view, this is the most upstream thing, and this kind of industry is actually a traditional production enterprise, related to the main business of Yanhuang Group, but it is not necessary.

Especially for Chen Yue, it’s not that she thinks it’s better to build than to buy, but she feels that such expansion will make the entire Yanhuang Group’s asset structure too heavy.

While the proportion of fixed assets is too high, it also brings about an increase in the number of personnel.

Furthermore, although raw materials are closely related to manufacturing, the high-tech characteristics of semiconductors can be regarded as a diversified expansion.

It is like real estate companies making steel and producing steel bars themselves.

According to the business philosophy that Qing Yun instilled in her, this is definitely not the time to diversify and expand.

“The semiconductor industry is a system engineering. With four major process modules, mask, core circle, packaging, final testing and design, we all have shortcomings that need to be made up for.

In the process of historical development, we are chasers. We can follow the diagram and follow others to cross the river. This is no problem and can be achieved.

Although she does not understand this aspect, What are used on Dongfeng and satellites

It can’t be imported

Qing Yun shrugged his shoulders, “I mean, there is no civilian grade.

Xiao Ya was stunned when she heard this, "No"

The next step was because the photomask step was technically blocked by Europe and the United States, so we jumped directly to the design.

Basically, we have everything, otherwise it would be impossible. Even in 2003, China was the only country in the world with a full set of semiconductor manufacturing capabilities.

Why the research and development was not continued

It was because the market competition at that time failed.

In the wave of globalization and the global village, we have always retreated because the investment in photomask is too high, often hundreds of billions.

In many fields, if you say it doesn’t have it, that would be an injustice.

It is the optimal solution for the times, but it is not the optimal solution for industrial development.

In some places it has been repaired and the main structure has been erected.

For example, photolithography machine.

Military products, such as an electric fan or a refrigerator, can be used for decades without replacement. Of course, the above products do not require advanced manufacturing processes or industrial standards. They only focus on durability. Reliable and stable. ”

This forms an inversion of development.

This is the case with foreign investment. If you don’t have it, I will raise the price, but if you have it, I will continue to raise the price after I beat you to death in the price war.

Does China really have no lithography machines?

No.

In the early 1990s, the lithography machine developed by Mr. Xu Duanyi’s team at Huaqing University reached the world’s advanced level.

But in most places it is not finished.

Because the path he is taking now, even in his previous life, would have been unreasonable.

But

The first step in domestic development is the last step, final testing, followed by packaging, and then the core circle, which Huaxin International has made a breakthrough at this moment.

But if the error of the blood glucose meter exceeds two points, it is harming people.

This leads to a situation.

It is indeed embarrassing for private enterprises to spend hundreds of billions of real money to get to this point.

However, these all have shortcomings, they are there but not strong.

But semiconductors are a systematic project. If one link is stuck, you will not be able to make it in the end, or the profits in the entire development chain will be eaten up by this link, and other links will be reduced to wage earners.

After all, it is cheaper to buy.

So, if you look at the current situation of China's semiconductor industry from an overall perspective, you will find a very disgusting fact.

Design plus the four process modules of photomask, core circle, packaging, and final testing are the sequence of chip manufacturing.

When Xiao Ya heard this, she immediately shut up and entered her professional blind spot.

This is the case with Intel's CU. A single chip that costs dozens of dollars can be sold for thousands of dollars, because you just can't make it.

The difference between military industry and civilian use

You can understand that the error of one or two meters in the missile is not a problem at all.

She thought it was a joke.

This is especially true in terms of civilian marketization.

As for the materials, we don’t have them”

Or they are not without defects.

This determines the development of China’s semiconductor industry from beginning to end. They are all developing in a dislocated manner. It is not a common progress of various sub-sectors.

Due to various historical factors, the development of China's semiconductor industry has been interrupted several times and has been blank for too long. The time is like an unfinished building that has not been completed for a long time. It needs to be repaired every now and then.

This development is not without its drawbacks.

Qing Yun actually has some disadvantages. It's a bit helpless.

It's good to be able to buy it, but it's uncomfortable when others don't let you use it.

Huaguo didn't start doing this until it got stuck. The development is led by the state, and the problem is solved by concentrating its efforts on big things.

This is like having a module prefabricated and embedded in an unfinished building at a high price.

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Functionally speaking, there is no problem.

It just costs a lot of money.

It’s like the Second Ring Road Viaduct in Jincheng. p>The main body of Jincheng’s Second Ring Viaduct is currently under construction.Offsite, prefabricated models were constructed section by section, and finally transported to the site and erected like building blocks.

This approach minimizes the impact of project construction on people’s livelihood and travel.

But the cost is more expensive than building a subway.

Jincheng is located in a plain. The construction cost of one kilometer of subway is 6.7 billion, while the final cost of the Second Ring Viaduct is 1 billion for one kilometer.

If you restore this scene to the development history of China's semiconductor industry, you will find that because of uncoordinated development, we have always spent a lot of money to do big things.

For example, EDA, everyone knows that it is the mother of chips and is very important. Without it, chips cannot be designed.

But how did EDA appear?

Before EDA appeared, designers had to complete the design and wiring of integrated circuits manually, because the complexity of integrated circuits at that time was far less than it is now. .

When the electron tubes inside the chip became more and more dense, it could not be done by hand, so EDA was created.

So how big is the difference between the first generation EDA and the last handmade drawing?

And how difficult is it?

It is not difficult at all.

It was the subsequent iterations that led to the rapid increase in difficulty, and people found it too difficult 40 years later.

What is the difficulty?

The difficulty is to re-develop an EDA that can achieve the most advanced process at this time.

What if we were to restore the first generation of EDA in the 1970s, which was the critical point of the transition from manual to electronic automation?

It would not be difficult at all.

Now at this point in 2003, what Qing Yun wants to do is to spend a small amount of money to do big things.

The development of Huaguo Semiconductor is a reverse development, but Qing Yun is preparing to develop forward.

Not to mention the chips of the 1970s, the chips of the 1950s still have a wide space in the market.

In an era when people were not stuck, positive and obscene development was completely established.

Catching up means being able to cross the river by touching others.

The iteration of forward development can be completed quickly because the path is right there.

The cost of chips manufactured in this way in the previous stage must be high and exceed the market price.

But it is only a loss of money, and it can recover part or even most of the cost. After calculating the big account, the money spent by economic thinking is definitely much less than the administrative thinking in the previous life where the energy was concentrated to do big things.

Returning to raw materials and producing raw materials by yourself, Qingyun can solve a problem.

Experimental materials.

Semiconductor is always a technical job. Whether it is industry or scientific research, materials are needed to practice.

To put it bluntly, it costs money.

500,000 US dollars per ton of materials and 60,000 RMB per ton of materials, how distressing it is to burn themIt's different.

This price difference will make an order of magnitude difference among the technicians and scientific researchers engaged in the work.

The prosperity of the industry depends on the coordinated progress of all aspects, rather than treating the headache and treating the head and feet. Solve the etching machine today and the photolithography machine tomorrow and find out there is no photoresist the day after tomorrow to make photoresist.

The pearl in the industrial crown is indeed shining brightly, but without the base of the crown, it is just a castle in the air.

The Yanhuang Group must do what is right, not make up for it.

After sorting out his thoughts in his mind, Qing Yun looked at Qin Manman, who was sitting on his lap, "Leave those old men to the school."

Qin Manman heard this He nodded and said, "The old principal met them at the airport VIP lounge and went to the school. Mr. Li and the others said they wanted to see the school first and get a feel for it before talking to you."

But that's all. , she bit her lip, then looked at Qing Yun and said, "However, Mr. Li and the others still have great doubts about the cooperation between the two parties.

Well, especially Mr. Li, he is very opposed to it. ."

Qing Yun was also helpless.

Mr. Li was deceived by Ark Chip, or Ark Technology, which made him fall into self-doubt. He believed that there was a fundamental contradiction between independent chip manufacturing and company management.

After a while, he patted his face and smiled, "It's okay. As long as we have to talk, there is a chance to convince him.

In fact, I also invited Mr. Li to join. We just value his reputation. If he is on our side, we should do things more smoothly.

If you can persuade, it’s best. If you can’t, it doesn’t matter.

It doesn’t have to be him. It will work."

That's what he said, but Qing Yun was actually very confident about Li Guangnan's joining.

Although it is rude to say this, Emperor Yun may be the person who knows Mr. Li best in the world.

The old man has been deceived all his life, but he will still fall for it next time.

More than 80 years later, the old man who was fooled again still stood on that stage with tears in his eyes and shouted loudly that only independent research and development of chips is the foundation of a strong country.

This is also the reason why Qingyun has always insisted on following the path of industry development.

There is a gap in information.

If there is an information gap, there will definitely be countless people who hope to use the Ark-style contractor method to control the government’s resources, manpower, financial resources, and policies, overtake others in a corner, break the monopoly, and finally After a lot of confusion, I realized it was a scam.

It’s aboveboard, everyone can see the progress, even foreigners can see it, but if you can’t kill me, you can just throw mushrooms.

Qin Manman could only nod his head and said no more.

That’s right, you have to try it to know if it works.

Su Caiwei, who was opposite, saw that the two of them had finished speaking, and her face instantly fell.

"Qin Manman, you're too old to be decent in the office"

Qin Manman turned around when he heard this, glanced at her jokingly, and then stood up.

The four women next to him were stunned when they saw this.

Especially Master Qianying, whose eyes are so wide that he can fit a small fist into his mouth.

Based on her understanding of this younger sibling, the empress is definitely the one holding her back.

The main theme is a cadre of dictatorship.

Why did you give in to Su Daji’s provocative words?

Qin Manman stood up, stretched lazily, and raised the corner of his mouth at Su Caiwei. He gave a mocking smile,

"Then I'll let you sit in this seat."

Su Caiwei, with a cold face, chuckled at this time, "I don't have it. You are so ignorant."

Chen Yue, who was sitting next to her, swallowed hard after hearing this.

Why did the style of painting suddenly change?

The chair under her body seemed to have nails. She was wondering in her mind whether she should get up and get out of the battlefield.

She was afraid that when there was a fight between East and West in the Second Palace later, it would affect Chiyu.

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